You mentioned the crappy iPhone and the 808 in the same breath - in regards to camera quality?? And the Z1 IMPRESSED YOU??? You have no taste at all when it comes to QUALITY pictures! The Z1 was garbage... then the new 20mp Sony camera was garbage! And the iPhone??? PUHHLEASE!!! I have a 3mp Olympic point and shoot from 2002 that takes better pictures than an iPhone 4... and rivals the 5!