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MarcusGR
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« on: July 07, 2012, 07:45:36 AM »

In commenting upon Fuji XS-1 sensor DXOMark states " Fujifilm X-S1 gets better results than a lot of ambitious cameras, yet is not equipped with a gigantic sensor like the Olympus XZ-1, the Panasonic LX-5, or the Samsung EX-1 —cameras aimed at true photo enthusiasts" : well this is an INCONCEIVABLE BLUNDER from a (supposed ??!) sensor-specialist like DXO-Mark!!
X-S1 has in fact a LARGE sensor (2/3" = 8.8 x 6.6 mm), much larger than those equipping common mega-zoom cameras, common compact cameras and even larger than those on board of most high-end compacts, including ALL those TOTALLY MIS-QUOTED by DXO-Mark: Olympus XZ-1 (1/1.63" sensor = 8.07 x 5.56 mm),Panasonic LX-5 (1/1.63"), or Samsung EX-1 (1/1.7").
DXOMark seems therefore to ignore the "inch system" expressing sensor size and completely misses the point with XS-1: by using the same sensor equipping Fuji X-10, X-S1 has the largest sensor to be found on any really compact camera until very recently. Only in June 2012 that palm passed from Fuji X-10 to Sony RX100: a true compact (213 grams) equipped with a 1" sensor (" self proclaimed compacts" such as Canon G1 X, weighing well over 500 grams, are in another league).
 
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 07:40:55 PM »

They are .. completely wrong!!
But the worst things is they never respond to  their mistakes..

I don't know, but their testing parameters are not clear, what Mode they have setup. They did same with Fuji X10, I requested to explain what mode they setup, and if possible can they test lower resolution but Higher DR mode, they never responded and they never did anything about it... and with this camera that got same sensor they did again a very silly, ambigous test ...  Angry
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 02:45:57 PM »

When we published our test results for the Fujifilm FinePix S1-X, part of the article was inadvertently left out. We would like to draw your attention to the following information:

“The Fujifilm FinePix X-S1 belongs to the Fuji X family of premium cameras, which are characterized by high-end specifications, high-quality optics, and an exemplary finish. The Fujifilm X-S1 offers a 26x lens that covers an ideal 24-684mm focal range. Its maximum aperture is quite generous for a bridge (f/2.8–5.6) and its optical formula incorporates four aspherical lens elements and two UD glass elements. In the field, photographers will appreciate its manual zoom ring. The Fuji X-S1 differs from all its competitors with its 2/3" CMOS sensor, slightly larger than the biggest (1/1.7") sensor for expert compacts (Olympus XZ-1, Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5, Canon PowerShot S100), and 50% bigger than the usual 1/2.3" bridge sensors.”

The Fujifilm X-S1 indeed has a larger sensor (2/3") than those of the Olympus XZ-1, the Panasonic LX-5, and the Samsung EX-1, to which it was compared in our test. This information does not affect the Fujifilm S1-X's score, which stands at 140th place in the DxOMark rankings and is better than the scores for these other cameras with smaller sensors.

We sincerely apologize for having omitted this information.

The DxOMark Team
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 05:36:16 PM »

That's fine, Axel.
But the current text of X-S1 review on DXO-Mark (see first page under "Sensor") still reads:
" The Fujifilm X-S1 gets better results than a lot of ambitious cameras, yet is not equipped with a gigantic sensor like the Olympus XZ-1, the Panasonic LX-5, or the Samsung EX-1 —cameras aimed at true photo enthusiasts".
SO WHAT IS DXO-MARK WAITING FOR BEFORE AMENDING IT Huh??
That BLUNDER has been there for over a week now ....
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 05:59:59 PM »

Hi Marcus,

We did make the change. It may be a server update delay.
We just re-flushed all servers' cache. Can you confirm if it's correct for you now now?

Axel

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 09:07:24 PM »

May re-flushing the web server cache, will appear also the test results of Oly OM-D EM5  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 10:46:32 PM »

For some reason these last couple posts about flushing reminded me of a scene from the beginning of The Big Lebowski. A thug is repeatedly shoving Jeff Bridges head into the toilet and yelling "where's the money Lebowski?"

I picture a DXO reader shoving Axel's head into the toilet, then pulling it out and asking "Where's the OM-D review Axel?" then shoving his head in again and pulling it out and repeating "Where's the OM-D review Axel?"

Axel replies "It's down there somewhere man,  let me have another look."

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 11:09:31 AM »

Except that I flushed... the cache Wink

For the OM-D EM-5 review, the lab is working on it but noticed some surprising measures and is analyzing the root cause.

Have a great Week end,

Axel
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